Philip R. Lane: Interview with Ansa
SPEECH DIGEST
NEUTRAL medium confidence · 13.5k characters readLane's Ansa interview is a restatement of the ECB's reaction function rather than a new policy signal. The bank has been lifting rates in recent months on the inflation implications of the energy shock, and Lane defends that: resilience so far has meant the downside activity risk did not materialise. He flags two offsets, though. Second round effects are not yet strong, and the global rise in long term yields is itself disinflationary and now sits explicitly inside the policy mix. Fiscal and wage warnings round it out.
What’s new: Nothing material. The energy-shock framing, the data-dependent reaction function and the fiscal and wage warnings are all established positions, and this reads as a confirmation of the prevailing view. The one incremental element is Lane explicitly naming the global long rate increase, when externally driven, as a factor that 'on its own, reduces the inflation rate' and belongs 'in the mix' for policy rate decisions. That is a mild dovish addition to the reaction function, not a sign of an imminent move.
KEY FINDINGS
- Lane places higher long term yields explicitly inside the reaction function: an increase driven by external, global factors "on its own, reduces the inflation rate," and "will be in the mix, along with the inflation analysis and the risk analysis, in determining where we need to go with the policy rate." Gives the ECB cover to do less tightening, so it reads supportive for the front end and flattish for the curve.
- "And on the second round effects, we have not seen, so far, very strong second round effects." Weak pass-through lowers the urgency for further hikes and keeps a dovish tail alive.
- Energy prices are above the baseline ("energy prices are higher than we expected in our baseline") but Lane refuses to map conditions onto any single scenario. Leaves upside inflation risk in play while denying the desk a clean scenario weight to trade.
- On fiscal, broad support is unhelpful: "a broad-based fiscal support essentially adds to demand in the economy and that is not going to help inflation return to 2 per cent in a timely manner." A hawkish warning to Rome against loose budgets, relevant to BTP spreads and the fiscal risk premium.
- September projections show Italian wages running ahead of inflation in 2027 and 2028, and Lane cautions that "allowing wages to grow too quickly does not help in terms of attracting foreign investment." Wage growth caps how dovish the ECB can credibly get, limiting front end rally potential.
- Lane names AI, and the associated US investment surge raising long term debt, as the biggest global issue behind the yield move. Frames the yield rise as largely structural and external, which supports the view that it is a disinflationary import for the euro area rather than an ECB problem.
FROM THE DOCUMENT
We do think that an increase in long-term interest rates, especially if it's driven by external, global factors more than European factors, slows down the European economy and, on its own, reduces the inflation rate.
And on the second round effects, we have not seen, so far, very strong second round effects.
We've emphasised that this support should be as targeted as possible because a broad-based fiscal support essentially adds to demand in the economy and that is not going to help inflation return to 2 per cent in a timely manner.
In our September projections, we do see wages in Italy running ahead of inflation in 2027 and in 2028.
The first question is about the scenarios that the ECB has run since the start of the Middle East war. Where we are right now in relation to these scenarios? We have found it useful to put out these scenarios. But let me emphasise, they make different assumptions about the price of oil and the price of gas. But they also make different assumptions, for example, about the strength of the second round effects, how quickly the energy prices will transmit to the wider inflation rate and to the economy. This is something we don’t learn about every day. What is true is that energy prices are higher than we expected in our baseline. But I don't want to convert that into any one scenario. Because the scenarios are a collection of different assumptions. And on the second round effects, we have not seen, so far, very strong second round effects. We continue to look at them.